Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/17/1998 01:40 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 33                                                              
                                                                               
"An Act relating to real estate licensing and the real                         
estate surety fund; and providing for an effective                             
date."                                                                         
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE NORMAN ROKEBERG reviewed the changes made to                    
the work draft, 0-LS0197\R, Lauterbach, 2/14/98.                               
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault clarified that a realtor could still                       
take less of a commission in the new language.                                 
Representative Rokeberg agreed and noted that if there                         
should be mitigation inside a transaction, the commission                      
amount could be reduced and the market place would then                        
again have free range.                                                         
                                                                               
Representative Martin MOVED that version 0-LS0197\R,                           
Lauterback, 2/14/98, be the version before the Committee.                      
There begin NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                      
                                                                               
Representative Rokeberg spoke to Amendment #1, which would                     
address a miscalculation made by the drafters in the                           
original legislation.  [Copy on File].  Co-Chair Therriault                    
MOVED to adopt Amendment #1.  There being NO OBJECTION, it                     
was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault MOVED to adopt Amendment #2.  [Copy on                     
File].  Representative Rokeberg explained the intent of                        
Amendment #2, which would clarify the meaning of "by                           
employment" or the act of employment for an independent                        
contractor.  Many licensees are independent contractors and                    
not employees.  This language would help them.  There being                    
NO OBJECTION, Amendment #2 was adopted.                                        
                                                                               
Representative Mulder disclosed a conflict of interest as                      
he holds a real estate license.                                                
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault MOVED to adopt Amendment #3.  [Copy on                     
File].  Representative Rokeberg spoke to the amendment,                        
which redrafts the entire section on "conflict of                              
interest".  He suggested that the new language would                           
minimize litigation, although, would not restrict the types                    
of claims resulting from cause of action that could be                         
brought forward.                                                               
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault supported the inclusion of the                             
language, which stipulates that the private person still                       
has the right to sue if there is misrepresentation.                            
                                                                               
Representative Martin voiced concern regarding an audit,                       
which involved the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation                          
(AHFC).  Representative Rokeberg replied that                                  
recommendations in the audit indicated that the Real Estate                    
Commission should address the issue.  The recommendations                      
of the audit are fully addressed through the proposed                          
language.                                                                      
                                                                               
Representative Mulder referenced the conflict of interest                      
language in addressing who is a "relative".  He asked the                      
problem in representing a niece or nephew.  Representative                     
Rokeberg replied that relative had been clearly defined in                     
the exception section.  The exception was intended to cover                    
a relative managing property without licensure. He added                       
that language resulted from concerns by AHFC who felt that                     
integrity of the Real Estate Commission could come into                        
question.                                                                      
                                                                               
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #3 was adopted.                            
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf questioned Section #22 and                          
language regarding disclosure of a sex offender.                               
Representative Rokeberg explained that the laws as they                        
apply to real estate licensees have changed dramatically                       
over the past few years.  He mentioned case law around the                     
U.S. dealing with disclosure of everything from ghosts to                      
murders.  The laws create duties, which are enforced.  The                     
duties to disclose can be cross-purposed.                                      
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley questioned if there was a requirement to                       
disclose a ghost in a home.  Representative Rokeberg stated                    
there was not.  Co-Chair Hanley asked if it was the "duty"                     
of the agent to disclose sex offenders.  Representative                        
Rokeberg stated that a duty could arise between the agency                     
relationship of the client and licensee.  Co-Chair Hanley                      
asked the type of situations, which are required to be                         
disclosed.  Representative Rokeberg replied that those                         
disclosures generally have to do with the condition of the                     
property.                                                                      
                                                                               
RUTH BLACKWELL, POWELL REAL ESTATE, JUNEAU, reported that                      
in Juneau, everything known is disclosed.  Co-Chair Hanley                     
noted that with concern to a physical defect, the law will                     
protect if it is unknown, whereas, some information such as                    
a homicide occurrence would not legally have to be                             
submitted.  Discussion followed regarding the legality of                      
types of information being disclosed.                                          
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley reiterated his concern resulting from suits                    
of selling a property, which is located next door to a sex                     
offender.  He questioned why that liability would differ                       
from other pertinent info.  Co-Chair Therriault pointed out                    
that anyone can access the database to find out where a sex                    
offender lives.  Ms. Blackwell added that federal law                          
prohibits a real estate agent from disclosing who lives                        
next door.  Although, she pointed out that the agent should                    
always recommend that the buyer go to the City/Borough to                      
find information regarding the neighboring houses.                             
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley pointed out that sexual offenders have an                      
85% chance of recidivism.  He recommended that there should                    
be information added, which clearly defines whose                              
responsibility it is to disclose where sex offenders live.                     
Representative Rokeberg noted that it is estimated that                        
less than half of the sex offenders are registered.  He                        
asked how much can we statutorily mandate an agent to                          
provide.                                                                       
                                                                               
(Tape Change HFC 98- 32, Side 2).                                              
                                                                               
Representative Mulder commented that there must be                             
consistency established by the law.  He recommended that                       
"everything you know should be disclosed".  The liability                      
for a real estate agent is sky high.  Representative                           
Rokeberg pointed out that there is a disclosure statement                      
provided with each property sale, and perhaps a new section                    
should be added to the disclosure statement warning                            
potential buyers to seek information regarding sex                             
offenders in the neighborhood.  Ms. Blackwell noted that                       
the Real Estate Commission is currently working on such a                      
disclosure statement.                                                          
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley supported that action, pointing out that                       
the general public is more concerned about sex offenders                       
than most other neighborhood information.                                      
                                                                               
Representative Hanley MOVED to ADOPT a conceptual amendment                    
with language, which indicates that, the buyer is                              
responsible for becoming aware of the location of sex                          
offenders.  Co-Chair Therriault recommended that language                      
be added which provides direction as to where a person can                     
be directed to find out information on sex offender's                          
residence.  Ms. Blackwell understood that information                          
should be included on the property disclosure statement.                       
There being NO OBJECTION, the conceptual amendment was                         
adopted.                                                                       
                                                                               
Representative Martin MOVED to report CS HB 33 (FIN) out of                    
Committee with individual recommendations and the                              
accompanying fiscal note.  Representative Rokeberg asked if                    
the conceptual amendment would create greater fiscal                           
impact.  Ms. Blackwell responded that the form was already                     
being changed so that it should not create a greater fiscal                    
impact.  There being NO OBJECTION, CS HB 33 (FIN) was                          
reported out of Committee with "no recommendation" and with                    
a fiscal note by the Department of Commerce and Economic                       
Development dated 1/30/98.                                                     

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